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Does "God" Exist?
by minimus in
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do you believe in "god" at all?.
not a captive

notverylikely--
Don't you think that we humans can reasonably ignore any proof that God could present? There is no formula to make a person believe in God. Jesus didn't even do "signs" for ones who asked for those proofs at Mt. 16:4 because he knew it was pointless. At John 12:29 There was a loud voice from heaven or else it was a thunderclap--people disagreed who stood next to each other and heard it.
Maybe I don't understand what you mean. Sorry if I don't.
But I think we are in a Catch 22 if we expect other people to make a lesson plan to prove God to us through logic.
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Does "God" Exist?
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
do you believe in "god" at all?.
not a captive

Hey, finger--I think your opinion matters. I like to think mine does.
When the elders were trying to shepherd me back into the fold when I stopped going to meetings, I told them that the problem with my conscience, my opinion, was two things were struck off against each other- my convictions were both infinitely important and infinitely not important.
Being a little bit of of both it seemed that I needed to stick up for my understanding of God and if I'm wrong what will it matter? I can only believe what I believe is true. If I wasn't convinced by their words and the WTS well-- Let God judge me.
We matter and we don't. Even if that doesn't make sense.
Personally, I am convinced that God exists and he cares that we know he cares about us.
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Will The Governing Body Enforce the New Generation Understanding and Muzzle Open Criticism Among the Rank and File?
by frankiespeakin in
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to keep every jw on the same page about the new light on extending the generation to mammoth's lengths of time the gb will no doubt be squashing any open criticism,, even the old cronies at bethel will looking differently at the gb when that starts happening.

even the most hardcore believer will be looking at the governing body in a "new light".
not a captive

Oh!
I get it now!
Remember when they said they were being directed from the Brothers in heaven? This means that even if the living FDS die off one by one , they can still say that they are getting guidance from the ones in heaven. But the problem would be rhen is how can they get stuff wrong if it is right from Jesus?
O, sorry. I forgot --they don't deal with him.
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Anyone been out for a long time, then for whatever reason went to a meeting or convention? What was it like to you now?
by Think About It in
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i've been out 15 yrs and never attended again.

anyone been out a long time and for whatever reason went to a meeting or convention?

what was it like to you then?
not a captive

The Idea of going makes me sick, it started when a brother in a sort of shepherding meeting told me that I had to go with the Bible story book to say that God told Abraham" kill your son and offer him up as a sacrifice" rather than point out the more spiritual reading that was in the scripture .
He demanded this. After that day I had a harder and harder time going to meeting--even though I was very regular before. One day ,just half amile from the Hall I pulled off the road into an empty parking lot and didn't know what to do. I could not make myself go that day.
So I guess I was "out" and didn't know it.
I had stopped commenting--not because the brothers forbid me to comment--they just had said that I had to go with the literature instead of the bible, and that tore I for me.
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what kind of music does an atheist have at their funeral
by loosie in
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yesterday was the day my family went out to the cemetary in my dad's home town to clean up the headstone and leave flowers and such.

now this town is small and rural.

afterwards we went back to the community center for the annual potluck.
not a captive

I've wondered too.
I love "Ashoken Farewell" you may know it. (You can catch good and very bad recordings on Youtube.)
But, yeh, I sure don't want a string of somebody's "old favorites"sung over me.
But then again--this is very schlocky-- I do love the song AmazingGrace. I can't lie.I believe that song transcends religion in some ways.
Good question, loosie. Kind of reminds me to write my will too.
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Does "God" Exist?
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
do you believe in "god" at all?.
not a captive

We are in a catch-22.
If God were to reveal himself to us humans, we would have to logically deduce that it was God who had revealed Himself. Yet everything that reasonably leads us to that conclusion we discount as proof ---because if it seems reasonable to us then we say it is only a reasonable event and therefore is not from God.
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A Question.......
by palmtree67 in
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evidently, according to the wts, the major way to reach people is by the printed page.. why didn't jesus write any books?.

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not a captive

True dat.
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I suspect they were Christians: my Chinese neighbors moved two days ago.
by not a captive in
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has anybody ever actually counted?
by stillin in
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i'm referring to the actual number of "anointed christians.

" the total limit is 144,000, no more, no less.

then it's a sealed deal and armageddon can proceed.
not a captive

How do they know that they aren't?
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I suspect they were Christians: my Chinese neighbors moved two days ago.
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not a captive

I'm gong to dog YOUR cat!